What you’re trying to prove
on June 8, 2014 at 12:01 amCarly: pretty dismissive of attempts at self-improvement!
Though it’s possible Billie might achieve greater results not from abstaining from alcohol, but from maybe like getting on antidepression meds or something. Â Of course, you might have to get off alcohol for them to work properly anyway.
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Don’t hold it back any more, Billie.
Here she stands in the light of day.
Don’t worry that she doesn’t have a jacket, the cold doesn’t really bother her.
Give up, give up, you cannot do it back in.
Give up, give up, it runs perfect woman.
*insert song from Frozen here*
“Fuck It All”?
[is insulated from pop culture except through internet memes]
[[lol insulated]]
What you’re saying is… the pop culture doesn’t bother you anyway?
Willis already inserted that song. In Dumbing of Age, two days ago.
Except Frozen wasn’t a thing yet when this comic came out. Disney movies just sang about getting with dudes.
On the other hand, maybe “Be a Man” would work in this situation…
why do willis’ comments sections ALWAYS devolve into Mulan lyric-offs???
oh god I love Mulan and every song in it (that is why)
That’s a frigging lie and you know it; Disney hasn’t been the stereotypical backwards setup people make fun of since the Disney Renaissance or earlier. Like okay, Part of Your World has a reprise about getting with a dude, but the initial part of it is just about being fascinated by humanity in general. Belle (Little Town) is about Belle wanting to get away from her stifling life, and its reprise is literally about not wanting to get with the typical handsome manly-man who’s chasing the heroine. Lion King and Aladdin had male protagonists so since I’m just going over the big “I Want” songs I’ll skip them. Just Around The River Bend is about… uh… does anyone actually have a clue what it’s about? It’s an I Want song that never actually explains what Pocohontas wants… well, that’s the worst Disney Renaissance movie, anyways. Hunchback has a male protagonist, but I guess you could maybe count God Help the Outcasts as Esmerelda’s I Want song? And it has nothing to do with romance at all. Mulan’s I Want song is just about being appreciated for herself, without having to be judged solely as a producer of offspring. Heck, it’s technically post-Renaissance, but Tiana’s I Want song is about owning a frigging restaurant! People need to stop acting like Disney’s just Snow White and Cinderella!
When I went to the theater in Disney World, they remade Part of Your World with gold and jewelery and dresses, but mostly cosmetics and cash filling the screen.
10 year old me will NEVER forgive this!
…I’m not sure who I was replying to here???
So uh
Disregard the above I guess?????
Suppose Willis was always going to love Frozen.
Frozen was okay. But not all that fantastic. The song was good.
Spoiler.
Only twist was the good guy is a bag guy change from love at first sight.
Man! Imagine that… he said he was a prince, but he was totally just a bag guy at the grocery store. What a twist!
Didn’t you know? Frozen is by M. Night Shyma-something-lamalamadingdong!
I’ve never liked the idea of taking Anti-Depressants. I guess It just feels unnatural.
well, so’s using the internet
Fun fact, I used to be suicidal due to a genetic predisposition to major depression. Antidepressants are one of the reasons I’m able to type this message. Fuck natural.
Fuck natural. Use wooden condoms.
But in all seriousness: being suicidal sucks and you being alive and well to type that message is great. Fuck natural indeed.
Splinters are nature’s way of saying “I love you”.
I got awful lucky. My antidepressants work well and are cheap, and I have four adorable nieces running around keeping me sane. Three years of therapy probably helped too.
Yeah, I love being natural. I love being in my natural state. As in, my natural state would be curled up in the fetal position on the floor, crying constantly for absolutely no good reason.
I’m sorry, I love your comments Yotomoe, but this was begging for snarkyness.
To be fair, the subject of depression and its treatment are subject to a lot of misconceptions and ignorance.
Anti-Depressants are the whole reason I’ve been able to maintain a steady job. Yet I still have people coming up to me when they find out I take them saying stuff like “Don’t you feel like you’ve lost your true self?” and shit like that.
Yeah, cause having my true self be an unemployed shut in sounds so great. I’ll keep the meds thank you.
The joys of not having insurance, I first took one kind and it worked, but then I had to switch to the cheap version of it (too expensive), and it only made me happy about sleeping all day and saying screw everything, so I stopped taking them, so I now naturally self medicate with alcohol, which at the time helps, but later the depression feels like a dark cloud was raining anvils all over my head, so I hear you in the “fuck natural” way, too bad I’m too broke for those unnatural drugs…
You might look into state assistance. I don’t know if this is true throughout the US (or wherever you might hail from) but in these parts severe depression is considered a qualifying condition to receive state medical coverage.
I’ve never liked the idea of taking antibiotics. I guess it just feels unnatural.
I’ve never liked the idea of diabetics taking insulin. I guess it just feels unnatural.
Have to say, I took some convincing to take them. My starting position was DO NOT WANT. Ever since they were invented, there’s been some very strange ideas going around about what those drugs actually do, and I believed most of them.
Well, I always stayed on the DO NOT WANT position (since I was twelve, fifteen years ago) and I somehow managed to lessen the effect of my depression phases over the years. Still it has an air of slow-mo life effect, the general lack of motivation getting me nowhere near who I was expecting to be at my age.
Wait, did I write my first comment to talk about depression?
DAMN YOU WILLIS!
Wow. This is TERRIBLE advice. “Don’t try and change yourself for the better, Just continue your self-destructive habits, because it’s pointless trying to better yourself”
I know it’s ignorance and not malice talking, but would you say the same about a diabetic person taking insulin?
Well, same thing. Just because it’s a “mental” condition vs. physical, it doesn’t mean people can just *want* to be better.
[I linked Hyperbole and a Half here, but I think this is eating my HTML, so TO THE GOOGLE for you]
[[dangit, now that didn’t reply to Yotomoe’s post]]
[[[fuck it all]]]
So, now I just see Carly in the first panel as the MCP from Tron.
I may have gotten myself stuck in Wikipedia today.
Awesome last panel, great perspective, seriously so gorgeously drawn Billie!! How you can jump from gags to the heavy stuff I’ll never know, but it’s masterful and phenomenal to watch the progression here.
Also therapy, heaps of therapy.
Very important. One thing some folks don’t realize is that Antidepressants aren’t happy pills. They don’t wipe out your depression, they even you out and put you into a better position to deal with it.
Ratchet tells me I should be in therapy for anger management. I tell him to finish fixing my fusion cannon.
I mean, come on, cartoonish despot villains don’t do therapy. Might give kids the wrongs idea.
While I think taking antidepressants is right and necessary for people with depression, depression is a diagnosable mental illness, not “everyone who is sad.” People who have sound mental health and a GOOD REASON to be sad CERTAINLY shouldn’t be building up a reliance on drugs, legal or otherwise, in order to feel better.
Well, the trick is reliance. I’m not addicted to Excedrin, but I’m sure as shit taking it when I have a headache.
Okay, wow, so much ignorance. First, modern antidepressants aren’t addictive. At all. There is no “Reliance”. Second, they don’t make you happy. They gradually take the edge off of the worst aspect of it (I still meet the medical criteria for major depression despite years of antidepressants). Third, it takes a month to know with any reliability if they’re going to have a positive effect. Nobody who’s “just sad” gets any relief from antidepressants, however ignorant morons say stupid things like “you’re obviously just sad and you’ll get over it” without understanding how depression actually works and convince people to avoid treatment that will actually improve their lives.
You’re 100% on the nose here, GrumpyP. Another thing that a lot of folks don’t realize is the major difference between major depression and the regular teen angsty/emo/goth/ attention seeking kind of…melancholy? True depressives are almost the exact opposite of attention seeking, we want to hide, bury, our feelings of worthlessness, otherness. For me also, years of talk therapy and two medications have brought me to “normal”. My attempts over the years of going naturally, usually ended with me finding other chemical relief.
That’s a moral judgment, not a medical diagnosis, and thus has no place in a decision whether or not to take medicine.
Originally posted:
November 19, 1999