R’as al Ghul has HAD to have offered something like this to Batman at some point, right, with the Lazarus Pits? He’s been around for decades, this has to have been a thing at least once.
Here’s a better idea: Sal kills HA, gets in the embassy and then Semme’s scientists(if they have others beside Doc) figure out how the tech works and resurrecT Sal’s parent.
There, and so they’ll all be happy, except HA.
I’m pretty sure R’as did this with Tim Drake/Robin and HIS parents once, actually. And he chose to resurrect them — Nightwing stopped Tim before he could go through with it.
Chalk another one up for knowing “Tower of Babel” right off the top of the head.
For Bats, it wasn’t even a conflict. He was willing to go to any lengths to keep his parents’ bodies from being “defiled” by Ra’s. Which Ra’s was counting on, he was using the whole tactic as a distraction to keep Bats from interfering with his (ultimately successful) plan to utterly cluster@#$% the rest of the Justice League with their individual weaknesses. The plans for which he stole from Bats’ files. The discovery of which caused the entire JLA to turn on Bats and each other, and the League shattered, which was Ra’s long game plan.
So Ra’s Batman Gambit-ed Batman in an effort to steal Batman’s Batman Gambits for the rest of the JLA, which he then used in a greater, more elaborate total Batman Gambit to break the team apart.
Do the Lazarus Pits actually work on bodies that have been decomposing for decades? And if so, how much of a person’s body is needed for the resurrection to work?
If the whole body isn’t needed, could you cut a person’s in half and resurrect two of them?
Attempting not to spoiler, but later IW mythos kind of prohibits this sort of thing. Not explicitly, but the rules we see for this universe imply it fairly reasonably.
It’s later established to be possible to rez people from stuff like bloodstains. But it’s also later established that there’s a non-material aspect to people’s being – let’s call it a “soul”, for convenience – that the rez tech stuffs back into a newly created body. Presumably the soul can only go into one body, so trying to make duplicates will result in one resurrected person and a mindless husk.
You’d think that without the intact, non-decomposed brain, the information that makes up their memories and, basically, their personalities wouldn’t be there.
Mr. Freeze’s wife got Lazarus’d years after she died. For some reason, BECAUSE of the advanced state of decomposition, it gave her fire and resurrection superpowers. (But then Freeze had to put her down again because she was unstable.)
I don’t think they do. I believe any rez tech used to date was here at the Martian Embassy. And even if they did, they haven’t actually told their agents about it.
I believe I’ve heard so in the comments.
What I want to know is how you don’t already know this, Willis.
He threatened to resurrect them in a Lazarus Pit during JLA: Tower of Babel.
He stole their bodies in the ‘Tower of Babel’ arc of Mark Waid’s JLA. And of course I know this off the top of my head.
… It’s almost like our author is attempting to draw a parallel between Sal and a certain orphan within the DC universe.
Here’s a better idea: Sal kills HA, gets in the embassy and then Semme’s scientists(if they have others beside Doc) figure out how the tech works and resurrecT Sal’s parent.
There, and so they’ll all be happy, except HA.
( kind of spoilers I guess)
You know the thing is I’m actually curious what are her choice would have been.
I’m pretty sure R’as did this with Tim Drake/Robin and HIS parents once, actually. And he chose to resurrect them — Nightwing stopped Tim before he could go through with it.
Yup, that was a pretty heavy arc. It really capitalized on the relationship between Dick and Tim (and their shared trauma).
One of the oldest stories I know of is The Monkey’s Paw – on this theme. And everyone know how that one ends.
Not a good idea Sal.
Chalk another one up for knowing “Tower of Babel” right off the top of the head.
For Bats, it wasn’t even a conflict. He was willing to go to any lengths to keep his parents’ bodies from being “defiled” by Ra’s. Which Ra’s was counting on, he was using the whole tactic as a distraction to keep Bats from interfering with his (ultimately successful) plan to utterly cluster@#$% the rest of the Justice League with their individual weaknesses. The plans for which he stole from Bats’ files. The discovery of which caused the entire JLA to turn on Bats and each other, and the League shattered, which was Ra’s long game plan.
So Ra’s Batman Gambit-ed Batman in an effort to steal Batman’s Batman Gambits for the rest of the JLA, which he then used in a greater, more elaborate total Batman Gambit to break the team apart.
“I’m Gambit… I mean Batman.”
Do the Lazarus Pits actually work on bodies that have been decomposing for decades? And if so, how much of a person’s body is needed for the resurrection to work?
If the whole body isn’t needed, could you cut a person’s in half and resurrect two of them?
Attempting not to spoiler, but later IW mythos kind of prohibits this sort of thing. Not explicitly, but the rules we see for this universe imply it fairly reasonably.
It’s later established to be possible to rez people from stuff like bloodstains. But it’s also later established that there’s a non-material aspect to people’s being – let’s call it a “soul”, for convenience – that the rez tech stuffs back into a newly created body. Presumably the soul can only go into one body, so trying to make duplicates will result in one resurrected person and a mindless husk.
You’d think that without the intact, non-decomposed brain, the information that makes up their memories and, basically, their personalities wouldn’t be there.
Mr. Freeze’s wife got Lazarus’d years after she died. For some reason, BECAUSE of the advanced state of decomposition, it gave her fire and resurrection superpowers. (But then Freeze had to put her down again because she was unstable.)
Just to point out, Semi already has the res-tech, and has used it. They just didn’t have the bodies. Now they do. Keel heem.
I don’t think they do. I believe any rez tech used to date was here at the Martian Embassy. And even if they did, they haven’t actually told their agents about it.
Ra’s offered it (again) to Batman in “Death and the maidens”.
It’s almost a second thought for Ra’s a this point.
“Oh by the way Detective, can I interest you in a little resurrection before you leave? Or perhaps my daughter?”