Jason, Sal isn’t adverse to fucking you because you’re not Tony. She’s adverse to fucking you because you’re an obsessive busybody who’s been hitting on her since she was seventeen. You should consider yourself blessed that, in her crusade against SEMME, you weren’t the first one up against the wall. You’ve more than earned it.
Didn’t she run away when Danny was in his first year? That would make her seventeen (turning eighteen) when her parents died. So, yeah, Jason is SUPER CREEPY.
The age of consent in Indiana is only up to two years older than the youngest of the two before eighteen. Unless Jason was 19 (i honestly don’t know his age), it was still illegal. Creepy regardless.
Let’s see here. The standard way to calculate ones acceptable dating range is the “Standard Creepiness Rule”, for which Y=(X/2)+7, where Y is the upper limit and X is the lower.
If Sal was 17, then her upper limit would be 20. This even reflects many “Romeo and Juliet” laws.
Jason, being at the bar in a legal fashion, is at _least_ 21. Thus, Jason is mathematically and empirically 100% a creeper.
Next, a scientific proposal for which ships are objectively the best. I’m just waiting for the grants to start rolling in.
I’m trying to wrap my head around your equation, but I’m confused. First off, what’s the relation between one’s own age, which doesn’t appear in the equation, and the limits? Also,
20=(X/2)+7
13=(X/2)
X=26>20???
Actually X is the upper limit and Y is the lower! Since the lower limit is “half of your age plus seven” and the upper limit is, conversely, “your age minus seven, doubled”.
That’s why Jimi’s calculation doesn’t work: 26 is the upper limit to a 20yo person, according to the “half of your age plus seven” rule. The upper limit to a 17yo is 20.
Still, if Jason was 21 and Sal 18, it wouldn’t be super creepy, agewise. What adds to the creepy factor is that Jason was a stuck up snob who thought himself better than everyone, and also her boss in the semme squad, right?
If you want to ‘compete’ with Tony, how about you try NOT BEING A DICK????? Tony was, by Sal’s account and your own admission, a good boyfriend. MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY IT.
Originally posted:
June 9, 2002
Also,
I read it less that he was owed her, and more that he felt that when he did pursue her, he thought she was mentally comparing them. And he couldn’t measure up. And that’s why they never worked. In his opinion.
I read it similarly. It doesn’t sound to me like Jason thinks he’s owed Sal, but that even after Tony’s death he thought he couldn’t compete with Sal’s memories of her relationship with Tony. And now that Tony’s alive again Jason thinks she’ll want to go back to dating him again rather than choose to be with Jason.
Having been in a similar situation myself, I can say that it’s easy to feel moody and jealous without thinking that you’re owed anything. I don’t see Jason being mad at Sal for not giving him what he thinks he’s owed. I more see him being mad at himself for not measuring up to her standards, and feeling jealous of Tony for being better with the ladies than he is (and for being an abductee, and for having a rich and powerful father who isn’t a total douchebag and didn’t tell him he was worthless his entire life, and for having better fashion sense, and then that whole coming back to life thing is just the icing on the cake).
The real issue here is his racism against Yankees.
I might be more charitable in reading it if he hadn’t A) (SPOILER)
Gotten pissy about it in the future when he thinks Sal doesn’t like him back.
B) If he’d really bothered trying to ask her out at all.
C) If he wasn’t talking about how he couldn’t get with her EVEN without Tony – that makes it sound like he thought Tony’s the problem and she’d definitely 100% like him if he hadn’t been there and then got pissy when that didn’t work out.
D) He wasn’t talking about WANTING TO SHOOT Tony for it yikes.
And E) The way he talks about Tony ‘upstaging’ him and ‘conquering death’ and the ‘bleedin’ all American boy’ sounds super bitter and like he definitely feels robbed of something.
I don’t really think D applies. I mean, he’s saying he ought to shoot Tony, but because he’s a rampaging undead man. Everything else in his monologue about how he hates Tony is really hyperbole, saying he “ought” to shoot him, implying that he won’t/can’t. He’s not actually harboring murderous intentions towards Tony, he’s lashing out from envy.
He includes ‘AND you had her’ as a reason he should shoot Tony. If he’d kept it to being a rampaging undead ex-agent, that’d be one thing. To include dating Sal on the list as well as mentioning it as a reason he almost wasn’t sad Tony died pushes it into ‘what the fuck’ territory, hyperbole or not. Seriously, Jason, the fuck?
I read that more as him trying to talk himself into hating Tony. He obviously doesn’t, or this strip would start “I finally get to shoot Tony!” He’s trying to work himself up to do something awful that has to be done…
Dang it. As a first timer to IW, I kind of liked their weird relationship, and was sort of rooting for it to go somewhere. But now, I’m not sure I can with his stalkery stuff.
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Jason, Sal isn’t adverse to fucking you because you’re not Tony. She’s adverse to fucking you because you’re an obsessive busybody who’s been hitting on her since she was seventeen. You should consider yourself blessed that, in her crusade against SEMME, you weren’t the first one up against the wall. You’ve more than earned it.
Wait, not seventeen. Eighteen.
Still creepy.
Didn’t she run away when Danny was in his first year? That would make her seventeen (turning eighteen) when her parents died. So, yeah, Jason is SUPER CREEPY.
Age of consent in Britain is sixteen. Not that age is the real issue here.
It is in Indiana (where she lived at the time) too, but STILL.
The age of consent in Indiana is only up to two years older than the youngest of the two before eighteen. Unless Jason was 19 (i honestly don’t know his age), it was still illegal. Creepy regardless.
Wait, no, nevermind. It’s four years until sixteen, which really skeeves me out as a Hoosier.
Let’s see here. The standard way to calculate ones acceptable dating range is the “Standard Creepiness Rule”, for which Y=(X/2)+7, where Y is the upper limit and X is the lower.
If Sal was 17, then her upper limit would be 20. This even reflects many “Romeo and Juliet” laws.
Jason, being at the bar in a legal fashion, is at _least_ 21. Thus, Jason is mathematically and empirically 100% a creeper.
Next, a scientific proposal for which ships are objectively the best. I’m just waiting for the grants to start rolling in.
I’m trying to wrap my head around your equation, but I’m confused. First off, what’s the relation between one’s own age, which doesn’t appear in the equation, and the limits? Also,
20=(X/2)+7
13=(X/2)
X=26>20???
Actually X is the upper limit and Y is the lower! Since the lower limit is “half of your age plus seven” and the upper limit is, conversely, “your age minus seven, doubled”.
That’s why Jimi’s calculation doesn’t work: 26 is the upper limit to a 20yo person, according to the “half of your age plus seven” rule. The upper limit to a 17yo is 20.
Still, if Jason was 21 and Sal 18, it wouldn’t be super creepy, agewise. What adds to the creepy factor is that Jason was a stuck up snob who thought himself better than everyone, and also her boss in the semme squad, right?
Her first words to Jason are “One more word an’ Ah’ll stuff mah voting age down yer scrawny, bow-tied neck.”
So she has indeed turned eighteen by then.
That’s true – had it been April by then? If so, yeah, she’d have turned 18, as her birthday’s the 1st.
Okay, this one I know for certain from experience. In IN, you can register to vote at 17 if you turn 18 before or on the next election.
How old is Jason anyway?
Old enough to legally be in a bar when they first met.
Jason, may I make a recommendation?
If you want to ‘compete’ with Tony, how about you try NOT BEING A DICK????? Tony was, by Sal’s account and your own admission, a good boyfriend. MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY IT.
Originally posted:
June 9, 2002
Also,
I read it less that he was owed her, and more that he felt that when he did pursue her, he thought she was mentally comparing them. And he couldn’t measure up. And that’s why they never worked. In his opinion.
I read it similarly. It doesn’t sound to me like Jason thinks he’s owed Sal, but that even after Tony’s death he thought he couldn’t compete with Sal’s memories of her relationship with Tony. And now that Tony’s alive again Jason thinks she’ll want to go back to dating him again rather than choose to be with Jason.
Having been in a similar situation myself, I can say that it’s easy to feel moody and jealous without thinking that you’re owed anything. I don’t see Jason being mad at Sal for not giving him what he thinks he’s owed. I more see him being mad at himself for not measuring up to her standards, and feeling jealous of Tony for being better with the ladies than he is (and for being an abductee, and for having a rich and powerful father who isn’t a total douchebag and didn’t tell him he was worthless his entire life, and for having better fashion sense, and then that whole coming back to life thing is just the icing on the cake).
The real issue here is his racism against Yankees.
I might be more charitable in reading it if he hadn’t A) (SPOILER)
Gotten pissy about it in the future when he thinks Sal doesn’t like him back.
B) If he’d really bothered trying to ask her out at all.
C) If he wasn’t talking about how he couldn’t get with her EVEN without Tony – that makes it sound like he thought Tony’s the problem and she’d definitely 100% like him if he hadn’t been there and then got pissy when that didn’t work out.
D) He wasn’t talking about WANTING TO SHOOT Tony for it yikes.
And E) The way he talks about Tony ‘upstaging’ him and ‘conquering death’ and the ‘bleedin’ all American boy’ sounds super bitter and like he definitely feels robbed of something.
I don’t really think D applies. I mean, he’s saying he ought to shoot Tony, but because he’s a rampaging undead man. Everything else in his monologue about how he hates Tony is really hyperbole, saying he “ought” to shoot him, implying that he won’t/can’t. He’s not actually harboring murderous intentions towards Tony, he’s lashing out from envy.
oh my god my avatar make this comment way unintentionally funny
He includes ‘AND you had her’ as a reason he should shoot Tony. If he’d kept it to being a rampaging undead ex-agent, that’d be one thing. To include dating Sal on the list as well as mentioning it as a reason he almost wasn’t sad Tony died pushes it into ‘what the fuck’ territory, hyperbole or not. Seriously, Jason, the fuck?
Wait. Jason wanted Tony to die so he wouldn’t have to compete with him? What the actual hell?
XD
HONK!
Dear me. This was a mistake.
He’s cut right in two!
Year Zero.
And then the sperm
RARRR!
Still pondering
Blow to the head
Nice dinosaur.
Gig is up
Fate of the world
Those ain’t curling irons…
Everyone duck fer cover!
Dina’s great, isn’t she?
Dammit, Tony!
Alien technology
U.S.S. Charge
AAAAAAA!
Too much beer?
TIES!
Can we talk about how Jason is the most useful person there
Jason has his flaws but at least he does his job, hey Guns maybe help?
You too Mandy
I know, right? He’s fist fighting an abductee. And he has no powers of his own.
Meanwhile, in panel two, Mike’s deciding who to root for.
He’s rooting for Jason of course, rooting for who’s going to get his ass kicked.
On this episode of ‘mean things that will hopefully be funny with this icon’:
Yeah, strips like this are why I generally prefer Tony.
Have a marmite sandwich, dude.
Someone’s jea-a-a-alous~
I read that more as him trying to talk himself into hating Tony. He obviously doesn’t, or this strip would start “I finally get to shoot Tony!” He’s trying to work himself up to do something awful that has to be done…
Dang it. As a first timer to IW, I kind of liked their weird relationship, and was sort of rooting for it to go somewhere. But now, I’m not sure I can with his stalkery stuff.