There very much can be–just not these days specifically, in America specifically. I mean libertarians will insist they’re different from Trumpers, but their politics are just as sociopathic and nonsensical.
The bit about Wrong Star Wars movies now makes me wonder what Walky’s thoughts on The Last Jedi are. I know Willis likes it, but Walky’s enough of *gestures to the strip above* that I could see him Not Getting It and therefore finding it long and weird. (Doesn’t help that Rise of Skywalker proceeded to take literally every plot thread TLJ established and toss them in the trash, so whatever things like the Finn-Rose subplot COULD have built to in a third movie, what we got instead was a lengthy subplot in an ultimately VERY long movie that’s deeply thematically important but isn’t allowed to go anywhere.)
Argh…
“Rise of Skywalker proceeded to take literally every plot thread TLJ established and toss them in the trash”
which is precisely what TLJ had done to TFA. That trilogy really needed a unified vision.
True. I just find TLJ changing directions less jarring because it’s the middle movie and allowed to subvert things – Luke rejecting the call makes sense when he went into hiding years ago already, Rey Nobody makes sense because she wants her parents to be Someone Important who had a good reason for what they did and it subverts the Everyone Important’s Related thing, plus Kylo could hold that information over her as a carrot to try and get an in, and fight me, but Kylo as the villain of three would have worked perfectly because Snoke was such a Generically Mysterious Evil Guy I wouldn’t have cared about him in TROS either whereas Kylo was memorable – whereas by Movie Three you pretty much have to build off the things the first two have teed up, you can’t try and make a new golf course. The Poe/Resistance imperiled plot could have worked if you stuck to it, and it’s perfectly permissible to introduce a major character in Part Two who stays important through Part Three, whereas Sudden Important Part Three characters don’t have enough time to feel earned. There are still things where I feel like Johnson could have done more to build off an arc from TFA, primarily with Finn, but they still could have tied back in in Part Three* and you have way more leeway to change gears going from Part One to Part Two than you do Part Two to Part Three, especially with the ways TFA felt like a throwback to A New Hope. ‘You were expecting another “I am your father?” Another Evil Emperor and Redeemable Second? Not this time.’
* Since Abrams clearly wasn’t interested in making Finn a character whose decision to leave the Stormtroopers started something bigger, either, I get peeved at BOTH of them for his wasted potential. But if someone HAD cared to do so, you could still make Casino Planet work in movie three by having him build a new Resistance among the exploited underclasses of the galaxy, Stormtroopers and slave kids alike. Bam. Now it’s an arc.
The big difference in how The Last Jedi goes differently The Force Awakens, compared to how The Rise of Skywalker does The Last Jedi, is that The Last Jedi actively rejects and subverts everything, while The Rise of Skywalker just insists on pretending everything in The Last Jedi just… didn’t happen.
This is basically what makes The Last Jedi the best film of the sequel trilogy, however good or bad that one is itself.
A friend of mine once swore to me that they were played by the same actor (the second Dumbledore, not the first one). I had to pull up several Wikipedia pages to convince them otherwise.
Ewww… well, at least they only like half of the Star Trek movies. Odd or even, it’s still a terrible mistake, but only half as terrible as it could have been.
W: “Look kid, your sexual or gender orientation was never going to interfere with my restaurant options! Slacks or skirts; kiss the boys or kiss the girls; I don’t CARE, as long as we can all go to Pizza Hut together on a Saturday night!”
When I came out as gay, my parents had a hard time, but they came around on it pretty quick – I wanna say a year or 2 for my dad and 3 or 4 for my mom, but even in the meantime they accepted that it was something they were just gonna have to get used to. Becoming a vegetarian took about a decade for my dad to accept
what if they grow up to be a conservative
An actual conservative or a Trumpublican?
You say that as though there’s a meaningful difference.
There very much can be–just not these days specifically, in America specifically. I mean libertarians will insist they’re different from Trumpers, but their politics are just as sociopathic and nonsensical.
“eh, liking the wrong star wars movies is just a feature, not a fluke. who’d even like jar jar?”
“if the kid’s gonna be vegetarian, it better not be pushy!”
The bit about Wrong Star Wars movies now makes me wonder what Walky’s thoughts on The Last Jedi are. I know Willis likes it, but Walky’s enough of *gestures to the strip above* that I could see him Not Getting It and therefore finding it long and weird. (Doesn’t help that Rise of Skywalker proceeded to take literally every plot thread TLJ established and toss them in the trash, so whatever things like the Finn-Rose subplot COULD have built to in a third movie, what we got instead was a lengthy subplot in an ultimately VERY long movie that’s deeply thematically important but isn’t allowed to go anywhere.)
Machete’s favorite movie will be the Holiday Special.
Machete will prefer the lego canon.
this is the only correct opinion
Machete’s name actually comes from preferring the Machete order.
Argh…
“Rise of Skywalker proceeded to take literally every plot thread TLJ established and toss them in the trash”
which is precisely what TLJ had done to TFA. That trilogy really needed a unified vision.
True. I just find TLJ changing directions less jarring because it’s the middle movie and allowed to subvert things – Luke rejecting the call makes sense when he went into hiding years ago already, Rey Nobody makes sense because she wants her parents to be Someone Important who had a good reason for what they did and it subverts the Everyone Important’s Related thing, plus Kylo could hold that information over her as a carrot to try and get an in, and fight me, but Kylo as the villain of three would have worked perfectly because Snoke was such a Generically Mysterious Evil Guy I wouldn’t have cared about him in TROS either whereas Kylo was memorable – whereas by Movie Three you pretty much have to build off the things the first two have teed up, you can’t try and make a new golf course. The Poe/Resistance imperiled plot could have worked if you stuck to it, and it’s perfectly permissible to introduce a major character in Part Two who stays important through Part Three, whereas Sudden Important Part Three characters don’t have enough time to feel earned. There are still things where I feel like Johnson could have done more to build off an arc from TFA, primarily with Finn, but they still could have tied back in in Part Three* and you have way more leeway to change gears going from Part One to Part Two than you do Part Two to Part Three, especially with the ways TFA felt like a throwback to A New Hope. ‘You were expecting another “I am your father?” Another Evil Emperor and Redeemable Second? Not this time.’
* Since Abrams clearly wasn’t interested in making Finn a character whose decision to leave the Stormtroopers started something bigger, either, I get peeved at BOTH of them for his wasted potential. But if someone HAD cared to do so, you could still make Casino Planet work in movie three by having him build a new Resistance among the exploited underclasses of the galaxy, Stormtroopers and slave kids alike. Bam. Now it’s an arc.
The big difference in how The Last Jedi goes differently The Force Awakens, compared to how The Rise of Skywalker does The Last Jedi, is that The Last Jedi actively rejects and subverts everything, while The Rise of Skywalker just insists on pretending everything in The Last Jedi just… didn’t happen.
This is basically what makes The Last Jedi the best film of the sequel trilogy, however good or bad that one is itself.
Everyone within three degrees of Ethan knows it’s not safe to like ANY Star Wars movies.
“what if they like the wrong star wars movies”
I mean, Walky’s still friends with Billie isn’t he?
What if they think Gandalf and Dumbledore are the same person?
A friend of mine once swore to me that they were played by the same actor (the second Dumbledore, not the first one). I had to pull up several Wikipedia pages to convince them otherwise.
Anyone can temporarily change a Wikipedia page. It’s great for winning absurd arguments.
Just be sure to do it from different host IDs.
IMDB way more convincing
Eh, old white guy
All parody songs are Weird Al
All comedy routines are Monty Python
Even worse, what if their kid ends up liking the odd-numbered Star Trek movies?
Ewww… well, at least they only like half of the Star Trek movies. Odd or even, it’s still a terrible mistake, but only half as terrible as it could have been.
Anyone who thinks the first movie has any name other than “Star Wars” is not qualified to judge. Unfortunately that includes George Lucas.
It IS just Star Wars. “Star Wars: A New Hope” is just the name its parents use when it’s been misbehaving
“The first movie”
I thought everyone called it The Phantom Menace?
What if they like the live action version of the last air bender???
They like a nonexistent movie?
I mean I guess you could get a sort of ironic enjoyment out of it.
W: “Look kid, your sexual or gender orientation was never going to interfere with my restaurant options! Slacks or skirts; kiss the boys or kiss the girls; I don’t CARE, as long as we can all go to Pizza Hut together on a Saturday night!”
When I came out as gay, my parents had a hard time, but they came around on it pretty quick – I wanna say a year or 2 for my dad and 3 or 4 for my mom, but even in the meantime they accepted that it was something they were just gonna have to get used to. Becoming a vegetarian took about a decade for my dad to accept