Robin, are you with Ultra Car?
on July 30, 2021 at 12:01 amChapter: Speak Now
Location: Denver, Colorado, Joyce and Walky's apartment
Walkyverse Amber is very different from Dumbiverse Amber in some important aspects.
Walkyverse Amber is very different from Dumbiverse Amber in some important aspects.
Loading ...
NO PHONE WHILE DRIVING
…
oh wait it’s Ultra Car n/m
Even worse, they’re flying
I don’t know if that’s actually worse. There aren’t any other drivers to run into up there, and no road to go off of. As long as they keep their altitude and don’t hit any buildings the cost of distraction isn’t that bad,
Amazi-Girl is not immune to vertigo.
…it will never not be weird to me that Walkyverse Amazi-Girl is literally just… Amber in a costume. Not a distinct character.
I think it makes sense. It’s an alternate universe where a bunch of characters who were superheroes in the previous universe are just normal people, and a character who was just a normal-ish person is a superhero.
I believe Rassilon was referring to how Dumbiverse Amazi-Girl is literally a distinct character, due to Amber/Maisie’s DID situation.
AmbG’s development in the Dumbingverse is one of the first ones that started going a radically different direction with the same base materials. I believe she was also one of the first characters Willis started thinking of the Dumbingverse iteration as the ‘real’ one of, though I don’t have any citation for this just vaguely remember him saying it of her pretty early on (before Becky joined the cast for real, IIRC.) Sarah or Dorothy could easily have supplanted their Walkyverse counterpart already by then.
It’s interesting how much things are different between Walkyverse and Dumbiverse versions of characters. Some characters I’ve ended up liking the Dumbiverse versions better, while others I definitely still prefer the original Walkyverse versions.
Also, since I read DoA first, it threw me off to find out that everyone except Robin in the Walkyverse thinks it’s “obvious” that Amazi-girl is Amber.
Well she’s handling riding in a light aircraft better than I did
I think a small aircraft that’s ‘supposed to’ be airborne would be less disconcerting than a small hatchback flying through the air. UC’s currently a Toyota Echo, Honda Fit, or Chevy Aveo type vehicle, not a Cessna!
Does she have to maintain forward velocity like an airplane, or can she hover with 6 degrees of freedom like a helicopter? (Or is that dependent on the needs of the plot or just how cool the panel has to look?)
Incidentally, it is SO WEIRD seeing UC referred to with ‘he’ pronouns. I know this was years before that plot development, I REMEMBER the time before that plot, but since it’s relatively rare for her to show up here and be referred to with pronouns to begin with, it feels really odd.
It definitely feels weird after all we know about her now. I remember it was a long time of people in the Walkyverse calling UC “he” before it was revealed that she identified as female, not male.
I don’t think there was any hint at all until she showed up in her humanoid body, was there?
Yeah, as I recall Willis only decided to write her as trans after putting her in a new body – even once she showed up in a humanoid femme chassis, there was a little initial framing that UC just didn’t care how meatbags perceive her gender since she’s an almighty AI before changing tracks to ‘nah, she’s a binary trans lady and wanted a chassis that reflected this’. (I think the decision to give her that redesign was pretty spontaneous, as well.)
So yeah, any hints at this point in the Walkyverse are retroactive foreshadowing, rather than conscious.
I’d still argue that UC themselves isn’t aware/doesn’t care of their own gender identity at this point in the timeline, so using “he” isn’t much of a problem
I’d make the counterargument that since Willis changed the title of an It’s Walky! storyline to refer to Ultra-Car by feminine title instead of masculine, we should still use “she” to refer to her.
Yeah, Willis has made their opinion here pretty clear. We know now, she is an egg here, she is still she even if retroactively.
As someone who started with DoA— and therefore met Carla, who identified as female from the get-go, long before her counterpart— I’m curious as to whether it’s less weird for people who were familiar with the character before she came out.
Like I said, it is pretty weird and I was reading Shortpacked before that plot occurred. Maybe if I reread Shortpacked again I’d get a bit more used to her in egg mode there, but even knowing this wasn’t a flicker in Willis’s mind yet, it’s weird. I’ve just gotten so used to late-Shortpacked UC and then Carla.
I’m just gonna say it: Joyce has a great case of (what I guess is) wedding hair.
(As a guy I have no idea in what order things are done to the bride on the morning of, so correct as needed.)