This whole thing is cringe.
I am very glad that Willis has matured as a writer – both in general (as demonstrated by DoA) and in reference to him calling his past self out on this in the comment above. The trope of women in competition with one another is really toxic and yet even many female writers use it to excess, seemingly out of habit. As a fan of the Romance genre, it is annoyingly common.
Not sure I follow. Are you saying that women can not be competitive about this sort of stuff in real life? I’ve heard my female friends be like this a lot. It’d be stupid to say that A:: women are that way, but to imply that none are is strange.
Women can be competitive, just like men can be; they don’t tend to be more competitive, but media portrays them as particularly nasty and jealous toward each other. It’s a toxic trope, and it teaches women that maybe they *should* be like that if that’s how they’re always seeing adult women treat each other, which leads to a vicious cycle.
Fair enough. It’s not so much that it’s unrealistic but that it’s a problematicly frequent trope. Only by reducing its prevalence we’d be able to better judge how “natural” is that sort of behavior in women if at all.
Also, I will add, I have found it very rare for women I know to compete over a man. I think I’ve seen it happen exactly once, and then only because the man in question was a stealth womanizer and had two women thinking they were in actual relationships with him when he talked about them both as “fuck buddies”. So it was less the women being competitive and more the man being dishonest.
… I’m really tempted to post a link to the most recent episode of “The Take” since it is about this very trope, but I’m too lazy to do HTML, so if anyone is interested to hear a discussion of tropes involving female friendships (including the one being discussed above), do a google search for “The Take” and “Female Friendship” – if a youtube video with the word “Womance” comes up, you’ve found it.
It is, but it’s also ENTIRELY in-character for this iteration of Billie to be (deargodaboveandsatanbelowi’mactuallygoingtosaythis) this… cringe… in this way.
Weird flex but ok.
This whole thing is cringe.
I am very glad that Willis has matured as a writer – both in general (as demonstrated by DoA) and in reference to him calling his past self out on this in the comment above. The trope of women in competition with one another is really toxic and yet even many female writers use it to excess, seemingly out of habit. As a fan of the Romance genre, it is annoyingly common.
Not sure I follow. Are you saying that women can not be competitive about this sort of stuff in real life? I’ve heard my female friends be like this a lot. It’d be stupid to say that A:: women are that way, but to imply that none are is strange.
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Women can be competitive, just like men can be; they don’t tend to be more competitive, but media portrays them as particularly nasty and jealous toward each other. It’s a toxic trope, and it teaches women that maybe they *should* be like that if that’s how they’re always seeing adult women treat each other, which leads to a vicious cycle.
Fair enough. It’s not so much that it’s unrealistic but that it’s a problematicly frequent trope. Only by reducing its prevalence we’d be able to better judge how “natural” is that sort of behavior in women if at all.
What yamikuronue said.
Also, I will add, I have found it very rare for women I know to compete over a man. I think I’ve seen it happen exactly once, and then only because the man in question was a stealth womanizer and had two women thinking they were in actual relationships with him when he talked about them both as “fuck buddies”. So it was less the women being competitive and more the man being dishonest.
… I’m really tempted to post a link to the most recent episode of “The Take” since it is about this very trope, but I’m too lazy to do HTML, so if anyone is interested to hear a discussion of tropes involving female friendships (including the one being discussed above), do a google search for “The Take” and “Female Friendship” – if a youtube video with the word “Womance” comes up, you’ve found it.
It is, but it’s also ENTIRELY in-character for this iteration of Billie to be (deargodaboveandsatanbelowi’mactuallygoingtosaythis) this… cringe… in this way.
True – but only because this particular trope was laced throughout Roomies and It’s Walky leading up to this. Consistency isn’t always a virtue.
AND Danny spawn
AND getting to carry Danny spawn for nine months…
You know what the best thing about DoA Danny is?
NO ONE is using him as the trophy in their bizarrely cutthroat fighting for romantic (or general, in Sal’s and Joyce’s case) superiority.
Nah, it’s the hat.
I thought the best thing about DoAnny was his banter with Ethan