I always figured a few drinks had gone down since Billie is also quite giggly and I think we know it’d take more to make her drunk! (To be fair, I also assumed Billie is more like “a little tipsy” at this point… which is just enough to make it pretty damn funny to her that she got Danny drunk. So somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 drinks is my guess)
Seriously, perspective’s a weird thing. I always interpreted these so much more differently then they were apparently supposed to be.
I looked at this as Danny being completely sloshed. Like, full binge drunk.
I think the people he’s getting along with need to be factored into the equation. None of them are really all that likable yet so his getting along with them doesn’t really mean anything.
Billy’s had, what, three strips so far? Five at the most? And the only things she’s done is drink and not like Danny.
I remember an episode of Tiny Toon Adventures where Buster, Plucky, and Hamton share a single beer from the fridge. It ends with them driving a car off a cliff.
In retrospect, it was clearly meant to be satirical, but this seems weirdly like the same story played straight.
I’m honestly surprised that Danny survived this night after seeing that last panel. I’m half expecting for the next strip to be Billie standing over his mutilated corpse all hulked out.
Seriously! When I first read this I honestly expected him to be on the floor with x-eyes and stars above his head in the next strip! (Although I first read this AFTER discovering DOA so… I was rather familiar with Billie at this point)
– I’m kinda glad this dick move on Danny’s part is included, because that’s something I did once while sixteen and drunk. Regretted it ever since. Danny’s behaviour is totally believable here. And I was/am generally as much “the good kid” as Danny tends to be.
Apologies to every girl who has been ass-slapped by drunk jerks like Danny & me. I’m sorry women have to deal with this kind of behaviour from men. The sad reality is that it’s so common that women treat it like a sort of noise. Most men don’t share this experience. As an adult male, I’ve been felt up *only twice* in fifteen years. By other men. Not once by women.
That does, however, bring up a double standard that’s present in society, Mr. Timemonkey. I, as well, have been slapped on the ass by various females (some of which were strangers), but I always found it more of an ego-boost and a joke than an offense. Whereas when I think of a man doing that to a woman, I find it offensive. It’s that ever-prevalent mindset of “anything sex-related is good to a guy! It’s always consensual! It’s the women who are picky about it and to whom not everything is appropriate!”
It’s the same mindset that makes people discredit male rape victims, because why would any guy complain about getting to have sex? Haha you lucky bastard, I wish she’d rape ME too, am I right bro? *high five* And although not relevant to this point, this mindset stems from the same place as “men can’t control their actions, raping women is a natural urge that they can’t be blamed for,” which we all know is popular amongst victim-shamers. The stem of both of these is basically that men are sex-driven animals by nature, while women are not.
To conclude: Timemonkey’s passing comment reminded me of similar ass-slappings in my own life, and how my reactions to those ass-slappings were a reinforcement, if not a product, of a double standard in society. A double standard which can clearly be harmful to both men and women alike.
Dannys only example of a person who is comfortable and relaxed with themselves is his friend Joe whom he usually views with contempt. Since Danny is now comfortable and relaxed for once in his life, he figures when in Rome do as the Romans and does something contemptable and Joe-like in his eyes. It speaks volumes about who Danny is and how he views people. Am I being insightful or just pointing out the obvious?
Whenever a writer vocally hates a character it always makes me like the character more, which has made reading Roomies! and DoA increasingly difficult.
There’s a marked difference between those two comics, though. Unsympathetic characters on SP! & DoA are written that way on purpose. Danny on Roomies! comes off as an unsufferable jerk, but was not intentionally written that way. Willis simply hates the flaws he perceives in his old work. He may hate Ur-Danny, but not DoA-Danny, who’s rewritten as a more sympathetic character.
Well that escalated quickly. He also fell into a poor coping mechanism for his despair a little too easily, especially since beer is supposedly an acquired tasted.
However, I think my questions can be answered with a single conversation between Danny and Ruth:
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He’s been corrupted. By just one beer!
All those educational films were right!
Funny, I don’t remember Danny having a hook in later strips…
It might make him more interesting.
Is Danny secretly a Walkerton? Or did he have more beer than initially assumed?
I always figured a few drinks had gone down since Billie is also quite giggly and I think we know it’d take more to make her drunk! (To be fair, I also assumed Billie is more like “a little tipsy” at this point… which is just enough to make it pretty damn funny to her that she got Danny drunk. So somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 drinks is my guess)
That’s true, but I like the idea that Danny is like this after just one beer.
Well, maybe “like” is too strong a word. More like “mildly amused by”.
Plus since he’s (obviously) never had a drink before it’s probably a bigger buzz.
Why am I trying to make sense of this
Seriously, perspective’s a weird thing. I always interpreted these so much more differently then they were apparently supposed to be.
I looked at this as Danny being completely sloshed. Like, full binge drunk.
I don’t think I ever noticed before that Danny is slapping Billie’s ass in the last panel.
An ass-slap! Welp, Danny, it was nice knowing you.
(Or so I’d say if I didn’t already know he’d survive. 😀 )
If we could trade Danny for Ruth I’m pretty sure we all would in a heartbeat.
I thought you meant have Ruth slapping Billie on the ass for a minute there.
Of course that’s what he meant.
that works too
Wait likable? Where?
He was laughing and smiling and getting along with other people for like one whole panel!
I think the people he’s getting along with need to be factored into the equation. None of them are really all that likable yet so his getting along with them doesn’t really mean anything.
Billy’s had, what, three strips so far? Five at the most? And the only things she’s done is drink and not like Danny.
Well, I’m not sure about the drinking, but the not liking Danny makes her a likeable character in my book!
But I like Billie and Ruth.
I remember an episode of Tiny Toon Adventures where Buster, Plucky, and Hamton share a single beer from the fridge. It ends with them driving a car off a cliff.
In retrospect, it was clearly meant to be satirical, but this seems weirdly like the same story played straight.
Wow, I definitely do not recall that at all.
http://www.videobash.com/video_show/banned-tiny-toons-one-beer-725747
Thanks!
Haven’t seen that in 20 years. It never got rerun with the rest of the show for…reasons.
I love how a swig of beer each makes them dress like homeless people and instantly get beard stubble.
I think it did eventually rerun much, much later on Nickelodeon or something, but… yeah.
Wow, I love Tiny Toons, even own the box sets, and I don’t ever remember seeing that episode.
It was out of circulation for ages because it made fun of anti-drinking PSAs and “very special episodes” as sensationalist and unrealistic.
I’m honestly surprised that Danny survived this night after seeing that last panel. I’m half expecting for the next strip to be Billie standing over his mutilated corpse all hulked out.
Seriously! When I first read this I honestly expected him to be on the floor with x-eyes and stars above his head in the next strip! (Although I first read this AFTER discovering DOA so… I was rather familiar with Billie at this point)
And from that day forth, Billie knew that she HAD to own him for life. She would make him hers.
Had you even had a beer at this point in your life?
Danny’s likability: that great unattainable dream…
Last panel. Ouch! Memories.
– I’m kinda glad this dick move on Danny’s part is included, because that’s something I did once while sixteen and drunk. Regretted it ever since. Danny’s behaviour is totally believable here. And I was/am generally as much “the good kid” as Danny tends to be.
Apologies to every girl who has been ass-slapped by drunk jerks like Danny & me. I’m sorry women have to deal with this kind of behaviour from men. The sad reality is that it’s so common that women treat it like a sort of noise. Most men don’t share this experience. As an adult male, I’ve been felt up *only twice* in fifteen years. By other men. Not once by women.
As a dude I’ve had my ass slapped by LOTS of women, none of which were drunk…probably.
Which also doesn’t have any bearing on anything you said, just felt like chiming it.
Fair enough.
That does, however, bring up a double standard that’s present in society, Mr. Timemonkey. I, as well, have been slapped on the ass by various females (some of which were strangers), but I always found it more of an ego-boost and a joke than an offense. Whereas when I think of a man doing that to a woman, I find it offensive. It’s that ever-prevalent mindset of “anything sex-related is good to a guy! It’s always consensual! It’s the women who are picky about it and to whom not everything is appropriate!”
It’s the same mindset that makes people discredit male rape victims, because why would any guy complain about getting to have sex? Haha you lucky bastard, I wish she’d rape ME too, am I right bro? *high five* And although not relevant to this point, this mindset stems from the same place as “men can’t control their actions, raping women is a natural urge that they can’t be blamed for,” which we all know is popular amongst victim-shamers. The stem of both of these is basically that men are sex-driven animals by nature, while women are not.
To conclude: Timemonkey’s passing comment reminded me of similar ass-slappings in my own life, and how my reactions to those ass-slappings were a reinforcement, if not a product, of a double standard in society. A double standard which can clearly be harmful to both men and women alike.
“Danny, you’re drunk!”
Say it with me, folks: DUN DUN DUUUUUUN!
Dannys only example of a person who is comfortable and relaxed with themselves is his friend Joe whom he usually views with contempt. Since Danny is now comfortable and relaxed for once in his life, he figures when in Rome do as the Romans and does something contemptable and Joe-like in his eyes. It speaks volumes about who Danny is and how he views people. Am I being insightful or just pointing out the obvious?
Whenever a writer vocally hates a character it always makes me like the character more, which has made reading Roomies! and DoA increasingly difficult.
There’s a marked difference between those two comics, though. Unsympathetic characters on SP! & DoA are written that way on purpose. Danny on Roomies! comes off as an unsufferable jerk, but was not intentionally written that way. Willis simply hates the flaws he perceives in his old work. He may hate Ur-Danny, but not DoA-Danny, who’s rewritten as a more sympathetic character.
The great, near-mythical Ur-Danny, the font from which all Dannies (Dannys? Dannypodes?) spring.
Well that escalated quickly. He also fell into a poor coping mechanism for his despair a little too easily, especially since beer is supposedly an acquired tasted.
However, I think my questions can be answered with a single conversation between Danny and Ruth:
Danny: It’s you! I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!
The beer is strong in this one.
It’s too late for Danny now. The Triangle Smile has claimed him as its own…
Originally posted:
March 5, 1999
Break his femurs, Ruth. Don’t let him drive off. Literally everything will go better if you stop him.